Comparing Chrysler-model converters

Comparing newer and older Chrysler-model converters used in 604 and 606 transmissions

The 10-inch front-wheel-drive Chrysler converter used in the 604 and 606 (41TE and 42LE) transmissions has undergone some changes in recent years. From the outside you can see that the surface of the impeller, smooth on the earlier models, now has dimples (see Figure 1).

The welded-in spring retainer on the early models has been replaced by a riveted-in spring retainer (see Figure 2). The turbine is no longer a factor in keeping the springs in place. The springs are also not serviceable on the newer model without removing the rivets from the retainer. Rebuilders will like not having to worry about the spring falling out during the rebuild process, and now clutch-release clearance is less critical.

But there’s one thing rebuilders are not going to like about this new unit. The hardness of the piston prevents the piston from being machined by conventional methods. The piston is about 65RC. Keep in mind that a bearing race is about 60RC. Machining the piston smooth enough for a reaction surface is impossible with the best grade of carbide tool bit. The best finish achievable with a carbide tool bit is only marginally good enough for a bonding surface.

At this time, grinding with a tool post grinder or a flywheel grinder are the only options available to achieve a good reaction surface.

If you happen to be one of the “if it isn’t broken, don’t fix it” people, look at a piston after a light cut on the flywheel grinder. You will notice a shallow pocket above each spring cavity on a pristine-looking piston (see Figure 2).

Most pistons will need to be resurfaced regardless of how good they look on the outside. When you are finished machining the piston, there is a trick for balancing the assembly. The pilot adapter for any ATI or TCRS balancer — which is used for 245mm GM rear-wheel-drives with the extended pilot converters — will work as a centering device to balance front-wheel drive Chrysler converters. The inside diameter of the adapter is the perfect size to fit the front of the turbine hub, and the outside diameter will allow the TCC clutch to fit over the adapter and rest on the balancer face plate (see Figures 3 and 4).

Ed Lee
©2007 Sonnax Industries

– Found in October 2007 Newsletter